In Cars, Local News, Perodua / By Anthony Lim / 22 October 2021 1:26 pm / 93 comments

The third-generation Perodua Myvi turns four years old next month, and as such a facelift for the D20N is considered well due. Speculation has been that the refresh would be introduced this year, and based on recent information, that’s going to be very soon, with word on the ground being that the car is set to be officially revealed next month.

UPDATE: (October 30) The Myvi FL has been spied in a public setting, and images of the car – dressed in its new Cranberry Red exterior shade – from our latest post have now been included into this story.

Details about the D51A facelift remain sparse, but recent communication from the company to its dealer network reveals that there is a major change to the car, in the form of a new transmission – the current E-AT four-speed automatic is being dropped, replaced by a CVT, with this being across the entire model range.

According to documents sighted by this publication, the Myvi FL line-up will continue to be made up of four variants – a 1.3 G and three 1.5 litre variants, the X, H and range-topping AV, but all the descriptions list CVT as the partnering transmission.

Initial rumours had already ventured a CVT as the replacement, but supposedly only for the 1.5 litre range, so it’s now confirmed that the 1.3 litre model is also going that same route. It also looks like the five-speed manual for the car is no more. Meanwhile, while not stated, the new transmission in question should be the dual-mode D-CVT as seen on the Ativa.

There should be no changes to the current powertrains, which are a 1NR-VE 1.3 litre offering 94 hp at 6,000 rpm and 121 Nm of torque at 4,000 rpm, and a 2NR-VE 1.5 litre, which puts out 102 hp at 6,000 rpm and 136 Nm of torque at 4,200 rpm. Exterior revisions are of course to be expected.

Another significant change is the confirmed introduction of new safety features, based on “Ativa technology,” which means that the Advanced Safety Assist (ASA) 2.0 will transition to ASA 3.0 on the facelift. As it is on the current car, the ASA 3.0 suite – which includes Pre-collision Warning (PCW), Pre-collision Braking (PCB or AEB), Front Departure Alert (FDA) and Pedal Misoperation Control (PMC) – should make its way on to the H and AV variants on the facelift.

Finally, a new colour will be introduced to the line-up, but it’s available only for the 1.5 AV – a new Cranberry Red shade replaces the existing Lava Red (which is still available for the rest of the range). The other colours in the Myvi palette are Ivory White, Glittering Silver, Granite Grey and Electric Blue.

The switch to a CVT is also expected to see a price increase for the car – the communication suggests “there is a possibility of (a) price increase,” and word on the grapevine expects the change to be in the tune of a few thousand Ringgit, but we’ll know for sure when the car is revealed. Dealerships have already been asked to order demo units of the Myvi FL, so not long to go. What do you think of the change to a CVT for the car? Share your thoughts in the comments section.

Sadly no manual. But plz make at least 1 version manual especially on 1.5 engine. Theres still alot people like to drive manual out there.

Majority are now driven with automatic instead of manual because automatic gearbox are more easier and comfortable. If using manual, it is difficult to use and inconvenience, especially on the road or stopping at traffic lights.

Never as difficult as u think for those who really enjoy and very good in driving manual. I drive manual for more than 20 yrs i still enjoy it as much. Even i got both auto and manual cars at home.

Manual is sport car. But this is just fuel economy and comfortable

Just to refresh my initial comment. Talking about Myvi CVT as fuel economy and comfortable, not manual. Manual gearbox is for sport car

The best car just get even better, syabas Perodua Myvi, the true Malaysian Game Changer

Tak payah pikir, tak payah pening, beli Proton saja.

Kalau pening, makanlah ubat. Kalau tak mahu hutang keliling pinggang, fikir dulu sebelum beli.

CVTs are wider, fixed set of gears that can continuously vary their gear ratios for maximum fuel efficient compare to conventional automatic and manual gearbox

@YG Well done, I give you prize of coco

Totally agree. Have been driving manual cars for almost 30 years now since Daihatsu Charade until now Avanza. With manual, can go from fuel saving mode of 15km/L in city driving to sports mode if needed. After 3 years of driving in KL jams, the manual gear change is totally moved to my subconscious mind, no need to think about it, totally ‘auto’.

I guess the Semi-AT in Proton Savvy is better

Yes there are many who likes to drive manual but not many actually buying it.

All my cars are manuals, Toyota manuals to be exact. Toyota gearshifter really slick as silk, dude

During covid no jam yaa..

Haiyaaa..2021 still ask manual manual..u still using nokia 3310 izit….get over it lahhhh….even if manufacturer make manual, how many ppl would really buy them?..u think u driving manual porsche kah?..this is just a myvi

Wat it is to do wif 2021 bro? Supercar manufacturer also still make stick gear in 2021. Many new upcoming car also still offered stick gear overseas. So wats problem wif 2021??? Even got manual in 5050 or 200200 so wats the big deal??? Different people different taste mahhhh. Even no much pipo buy but still millions pipo buying. 7 billion pipo on earth u think all 7 billion same retard mind like u ahhhh??? Get over bro. Not everyone same taste. Learn to respect others opinion lar u charsiew strawberry kid.

Perodua makes money by selling what MOST malaysian wants…not to satisfy some dude thinking he is good in driving manual…u think this is sports car company kah?…learn to see the bigger picture lah charsiewpao strawberry boy

Agree with u bro. Now we r in 2021…if some people want to buy manual, just go buy 2nd car or conti car which has multi-transmission. This is just myvi not supercar. Myvi called King of the road doesn’t mean it’s a supercar. Nowadays people want to drive with comfort and for long term uses.

None of any Perodua cars come with good manuals. The shifter is always too long like driving an older Hilux truck and the clutch feel is like an on/off switch. It is good that they stop offering manuals , leaving a bad taste in younger drivers starting to drive manuals.

CVT? Fanbois now have to eat their pools of spit against CVT. LOL

Haters should not complain when never try.

Now that is an interesting advice to give for our trolling fanboys here whom loves spew hatred onto other brands (Proton in particular) and CVT (in general) when they had never tried either one.

There are bolehlanders who dislike CVT mainly bcoz of their experience with Proton’s CVT from Punch, which is the traditional belt & pulley system that suffers from noise, harshness, premature wear ironically caused the very friction required in the 1st place between the belt & pulley for the transmission to work. Perodua’s dual mode D-CVT not only has the belt & pulley system; it has an additional planetary epicyclic gear set (similar to the one used in the conventional torque converter automatics) to take over the transmission of power to the wheels at medium & high speeds. Thus the D-CVT belt & pulley system is not as stressed most of the time like in Proton’s Punch CVT of the more traditional design. https://paultan.org/2021/02/24/perodua-ativa-how-d-cvt-is-different-to-other-cvts/

Punch CVT issues has nothing to do with the technology rather the poor setup by Punch itself. Constant refinement by P1 and in partnership with Geely have solved virtually all the problems with the new 2022 Iriz/Persona combo. The only ones talking about dislikes are P2 fanboys protecting their 4AT museum exhibits.

https://paultan.org/2021/09/01/2022-proton-iriz-and-persona-now-with-much-improved-cvt-performance-fuel-economy-features-project-lead/ Yes, the above PT article does describe the improvements made to the Punch CVT used by Proton. Based on the described improvements, Punch must have also gotten involved instead of only Geely and Proton. However, there’s no mention of any upgrade in the materials used for the belt and the pulleys. As already described, the D-CVT used by Perodua reduces strain on the belt & pulley assembly by rerouting the power through a separate gear system during middle to high speeds, but the belt and pulleys in the Punch CVT will still be under strain at any speed.

Based on that article Punch have nothing to do with said improvements but from inhouse, and what is the matter with belt & pulley it is the tried & proven traditional cvt system after all, and afaik there has no gearbox failure complaints on saga flx using Punch cvt. I see most are just exaggerations of hearsays & rumors.

While Punch, as the manufacturer, could be blamed for the poor set-up of their CVTs, Proton, as the paying customer, should have pressured Punch to conduct improvements from earlier on when CVTs were first used in the previous generation Sagas. Then, there would be a different overall view about the CVT in bolehland today.

If it was a first bespoke suit but it was poorly done up to standards, how would you know it was a bad suit unless someone pointed out. By then it is too late to seek changes as you have taken delivery. The same with Proton being the first time CVT user, they would not have experience refining the CVT until much later and with help from Geely no less.

@Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, in that PT’s article about improved Iriz & Persona CVT, Adzrai of Proton mentioned that the improvements had helped to reduce CVT warranty claims by 80%. This shows that Proton had indirectly admitted that there were higher CVT warranty claims in the past which would mean higher cases of CVT defects or failures then. And for future warranty claims to remain valid, the manufacturer Punch would definitely be involved in any of the changes made on the CVT.

Surely Proton had received feedback from the unhappy customers, which were in turn fed back to Punch, and giving the reason that Proton being unfamiliar with the CVT is obviously on the less than professional side, when Proton does test out their pre-production cars like any other manufacturer. It is unlikely that Punch had been left out of the loop on any effort to improve its own CVT because last month, Proton had publicly described the changes on the CVT for the face lifted Iriz & Persona models as a major hardware refresh. And wasn’t it Geely which had to recruit an ex-GM & ex-Chrysler engineer in order to settle the X70’s DCT? May be he had given some ideas or pointers to Punch about their own CVT.

This D-CVT is from Akashi Kikai. Despite using D-CVT, it would be more reliable and good performance.

The clear answers for family guys. The perception of: 1.Good value for money 2.Solid Proton engineered product 3. Local smell/Malaysia’s pride 4. Easy to repair even bengkel bawah pokok pomen can do 5. Family legacy – father bought a Proton and grown up with a Proton constantly in the family 6. FC 7. Kedai potong got cheap & plenty quallitier part for my P1 8. Cheap roadtax 9. It is the clear our own Kegemaran Malaysia 10. Sturdy & tough HPF body, even if got whack by some idiot I know we will be safe inside 11. Ligthweight car 12. Got big boot, so as a man it is very versatile and easy to haul lots of things 13. Very reliable, constantly being refined and updated. 14. Proven Campro tech 15. Bullet prove 16. Internationally collaborating refined CVT 17. No start stop, save battery, save environment compared to other car 18. More planted drive on road, it won’t fly and do some acrobatic manouvres into longkang (unlike TheKing especially) 19. No teh tarik hook, dissuade using plastics. Saving the earth for future generations 20. Nice and comfy seats for long distance drives 21. Plenty of aftermarket part from abang to layang2 22. A few make up can unmistakabaly convert it R3 Limited Edition hnggg version 23. Proton superb ride & handling yet improved NVH 24. Nice meter display cluster, more higher end than some rm100k car 25. Last but not least, using timing belt maa, no worries on timing chain will snap. Just only need to spend rm200 on the average lifetime of this car and drive worryfree

Truly the vw golf r of asia

Yup. Ricer king of asia

ah nice! SA: “what for need manual, with CVT, you can manual mode with 7 speeds!” who knows, maybe can somehow find the w/h for shift paddles as seen in the Raize GR in Indonesia.

Hopefully the X model will become more popular by being powered by a 1.5 litre engine.

History suggests that Perodua has had difficulties making the top spec 1.3 Myvi as popular as other variants judging by introduction of changes before a range-wide facelift to stir up new interest.

2nd generation pre-facelift Premium EZI/SXI –> 1.3 SE 2nd generation facelift 1.3 X –> 1.3 XS –> discontinuation 3rd generation pre-facelift 1.3 X –> 1.3 X with ASA 2.0

CVT? Please P2 no to CVT.

The old boring four-speed automatic is way better than CVT. And old shift stick transmission is better option to CVT.

Unless it is wet clutch DCT, then it is different story.

This is not CVT. This is D-CVT from Akashi Kikai. But D-CVT gives good performance and reliable compare to old school 4 speed auto

This is the same guy that had praised 4AT for good performance and reliable vs CVT and now he is saying the opposite. How to trust these jokers.

I didn’t say anything about praising 4AT as good performance and reliable. 4AT is really outdated. Only someone here who claims that 4AT is reliable and good performance. .

Have u driven a cvt before? Please do not tell me u only drive proton’s cvt cause that cvt is on another level of junk. U wanna put those wet clutch dct better u buy a used vw golf. There’s many of them unsold in used car website. The price also so cheap leh! Plus got vw badge & feels premium than our humble national car, turbo some more. Amachiam ada berani ka?

It’s not just about the drive. It’s the long term durability as well. How can a belt & pulley system which rely on friction to work last longer than gears? Common sense will tell you that they will wear out much faster than gears and they are not cheap to replace/fix.CVT also have lower torque limit compared to gear, which is why Toyota avoid pairing CVT with turbo charged engines.Car manufacturers switch to CVT to save costs because they are much simplier to manufacture.The fuel saving is not really significant compared to conventional automatic gearbox. How much do you know about CVT apart from driving it?

This is common but toyota, subaru, daihatsu can run longer term without going to workshop. CVT gearbox are fuel efficient compare to conventional automatic gearbox. Like take example of Vios 4AT vs Vios CVT, which Vios do you think have more fuel efficient? Vios CVT is the answer coz Vios CVT improves fuel economy like 18-25%.

That is not true. I can name you at least 1 turbocharged Toyota with a CVT. In other markets, there are 1.2L turbocharged Toyota CHR.

This is true. Don’t just downvote people because you don’t like the truth. If you’ve looked at videos on cvts are taken apart and how they work, it’s always metal rubbing against metal. So there will always be friction. No matter how good your cvt oil also, it will always be metal rubbing against metal. So it will never be as durable as a conventional automatic transmission. Only we thing can do is replace the cvt oil at more frequent intervals. Fortunately, Toyota Aisin cvt gearboxes are one of more reliable ones compared to other brand. I’m guessing D-CVT from Daihatsu, which is Toyota’s subsidiary should be Aisin as well. In some other less reliable brands, replacing the cvt gearbox is much more expensive than whatever fuel savings you are gonna get. If you are gonna keep your car for super long term, then better budget a bit for cvt gearbox replacement. Heard it’s around rm 20k but I’m not very sure.

Aluminum Dual VVT-i 0W-20 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil + CVT

This Myvi lagi best lagi jimat minyak.

basically the CVT from vios right?

Nope! This D-CVT is from Akashi Kikai, not Vios.

Akashi Kikai is gearbox manufacturer lahh uncle….Vios is model of car

As usual, Perodua is always tight lip abt their products until launching day r nearer to giv car enthusiasts a guessing game.

The above pictures are from KLIMS 2018. So when can show pictures of the actual 2022 model?

encouraging more road warriors? as if the current traffic accident rate is not high enough

(Like) Myvi GT Style (Dislike) Iriz activ with ugly black claddings

D-Cvt is smooth and better than 4AT

Don’t be scared, Japan CVT uses torque converter and will be durable until the end.

Oh really? Ever heard of Honda Cith 4th gen CVT nightmare?

Nissan Sylphy second generation too… they were sued in the USA in a class action for their CVT transmissions.

DCVT is interesting but not sure for people who want to modify or bolt on turbo. DCVT will limited the modification. 4AT is old style but easy to modify but would love to see the DCVT in myvi

Hope to get integrated drl.

D-CVT no problem. Naturelly aspirated engine also no problem.

U mau racing kah ah beng?

Perodua solved their chips shortage already or not? Ordered the current myvi since Feb until today didnt get it yet. Cancelled my booking already. Tired of waiting. This one if order now they plan to deliver when? End of 2022 kah?

How come, I see perodua HQ got ready stock. Can get in 2 weeks

Not sure why people are complaning about the cvt system, technology has come a long way since. Sure conventional 4AT is more durable but CVTs are not as bad as what people say. Just like conventional engine block use cast iron which can handle more power, but now mostly use alluminium to save weight… but nobody complaining about it?

Nobody really is complaining only P2 fanboys coz while others, including P1, modernised using CVT their godbrand were sticking to ancient 4AT and they had to bash CVT or else they would look rather foolish for supporting a museum exhibit. Now that P2 is finally switching over to CVT, these same fanboys are heaping praises on that gearbox. You see, it is the hypocrisy not the technology.

https://paultan.org/2021/02/24/perodua-ativa-how-d-cvt-is-different-to-other-cvts/ The above PT article had explained the differences between the Daihatsu D-CVT which is adopted by Perodua, and the conventional CVT which is the design found in the Punch units used by Proton, and it was claimed that the D-CVT is better than the conventional CVT. Isn’t it plausible that Perodua had waited for Daihatsu’s D-CVT as the better choice, rather than simply replacing the 4AT with any available conventional CVT?

Plausible? NO. Toyota & Dahhtisu been using CVT for dog years in their Japan cars, there are no such thing as better options as even DCVT has higher parasitic loss & lethargic response compared to DCT gbox. Why not Perodua go for Toyota DCT gbox then? Simply becus Toyota nor Dahhtisu did not give them a better gearbox. The only reason Perodua moved on from 4AT was simply that newer Dahhtisu engines are no longer compatible with outdated 4AT used by them since dog years ago.

The Akashi Kikai factory in Seremban makes 5MT, 4AT and also the newer D-CVT gearboxes for P2. So, it’s unlikely that Daihatsu would want to export their JDM CVT gearboxes to P2, and the DCT would be too costly for a bread & butter plebeian model like the MyVi. Anthony had also written that there should be no changes to the current 1.3 & 1.5L engines. So the CVT replaces the 4AT most likely in order to help reduce fuel consumption and cut down the amount of exhaust CO2 per km.

Simply cuz 4AT parts are too ancient and no longer produced by Akashi Kikai. If no parts, how will P2 factory in S’ban assemble that ancient gearbox? They are forced to upgrade and modernised since every other market has ditch the ancient 4AT, except us. We like to keep museum exhibits on sale and running on the road.

The current generation MyVi has not been replaced yet and thus the Akashi Kikai factory near Seremban still makes the 4AT gearbox not only for the MyVi, but also for the Axia, Bezza & Aruz models, despite having started producing the D-CVT for the Ativa. Anthony wrote about a possible increase in the price of the next generation MyVi with the switch to CVT, which indicates that the 4AT had helped in keeping the production costs as low as possible despite of not being the latest design. Yes, the conventional planetary gearbox torque converter automatic transmission design has been around for a long time, but it has not been entirely abandoned by the automotive industry. Such transmissions can still be found in the current generation BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Mazda, to name a few, with the major differences being more number of gear ratios/speeds and the wider range of torque converter lock-up clutch action, when compared to the MyVi 4AT gearbox.

Bye bye 4AT, hello CVT

Heard that all perodua models will come CVT

brother, DNGA is more important, the car will be more solid to drive.

This time got rear disc brake ah? Please lahh…

If no production of manual gear shift is because of majority drive with auto then its a lost of the minority sales. The question is why not cater for both as there is a world of difference between the both and those who choose the manual has a ultimate reason. This is reply the reason given because majority drive auto.

What?? C’mon, no one needs a manual car anymore lah! In the coming 10 years, even combustion engines will be phased out too, it will be an unavoidable reality. Also, autonomous cars will be widely used, so no more arguments about senior citizen being too old to drive, just get a freakin self-driving car. No more drink driving against traffic, therefore traffic accidents and death will be significantly reduced. And you guys still talking about MANUAL cars? Aiyaiyai!!

One of the simple pleasures of being an automotive fan is being able to drive your own car, and although pressing the clutch & shifting the gear stick can be a chore in bad crawling traffic jams, your basic driving skills are not even considered complete if you can’t drive a manual transmission car.

Manual or auto, majority Malaysian suka auto. If perodua nak keluarkan versi manual high spec, cuba release 50ribu myvi 1.5 manual. Not sure boleh laku macam pisang goreng atau tidak.

Try releasing limited units, maybe 10k.. Limited edition manual 1.5 full spec myvi. Guarantee sold out.

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